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Supergirl – FIRE & WATER #147

Firestorm and Aquaman: The Fire and Water Podcast

The 147th episode of THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST is now available for your listening pleasure! THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST is the official podcast of FIRESTORM FAN and THE AQUAMAN SHRINE.

This week Shag and Rob welcome Nuclear Sub Anj (well-known Supergirl blogger) to discuss the first four episodes of the CBS-TV show SUPERGIRL! Plus, the podcasting debut of a two-time winner of the coveted Steam Award!

You can find the 147th episode of THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST on iTunes. While you’re there, please drop us a review on the iTunes page. Every comment helps! Alternatively, you may play the podcast using the player below or by right-clicking “download”, choosing “Save Target/Link As”, and selecting a location on your computer to save the file (83 MB).

As always, thanks to my co-host Rob Kelly, Sea King of THE AQUAMAN SHRINE, for doing all the post-production on these episodes! Opening theme, “That Time is Now,” by Michael Kohler. Special thanks to Daniel Adams and Ashton Burge with their band The Bad Mamma Jammas for our fantastic original closing theme!

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  1. Great show, and still listening, but YES, Terri Hatcher WAS on Smallville. She played Lois Lane’s mother, and appeared via video tape recordings “talking” to her daughter Lois, as played by Erica Durance…who is somehow even hotter than Terri Hatcher.


  2. Okay, that end bit was adorable. Sounds similar to some of the conversations I have with our daughter on the shows we watch. Go Team Flash!

    Speaking of Team Flash, I think you guys nailed my problem with Supergirl…I want more of HER. I find myself getting a bit annoyed when so much screen time is taken up by the office Scooby Gang or the DEO squad. Melissa Benoist is so charming and perfect for the role the supporting cast is actually detracting from the show in the current configuration.

    I know the show is still young, and I’m seeing some growth, but Alex comes across as WAY too nagging, and Cat Grant was just a cardboard cutout of a horrible boss until “Livewire”. I’m still enjoying the show, but I think episodes 2 and 3 took it down a notch from the pilot for me. Livewire picked up things, but I’m still wincing at some of the dialog. Whoever does the dialog polish on the Flash scripts needs to come over and give the Supergirl scripts a pass before filming.

    I’m hoping Henshaw is the Martian Manhunter as well, BUT if he replaced the real Henshaw as Shagg suggests, that’s a bit too Harrison Wells too.

    Jemm, Son of Saturn….WOW. When I saw him I thought he was Despero at first. But Jemm, that’s even MORE obscure. I do love this show for that. Much like Flash, you never know what DCU concept is going to be put into play.

    Great to hear Anj weigh in. I smell a Supergirl podcast in his future! Get on it Anj!


  3. Siskoid says:

    Nice episode. My thoughts generally echo yours across the board. Livewire was definitely the best episode yet, a great one for Cat. I’m not as keen as you are on Helen Slater’s performance as Mrs. Danvers, seemed a bit stiff to me, but I do enjoy the idea behind her casting and that of Dean Cain.

    There’s definitely a formula these shows are following, none of them art particularly demanding of their audience that way. For me, the enjoyment often comes from the references to comics stuff as opposed to plot, or “oh look at all the pretty people”, but I don’t find them objectionable either.

    As for the great James Olsen debate, I don’t have a problem with the character and find him a perfectly legitimate take on Jimmy Olsen, a Jimmy that’s grown up, wants his independence, and yet still calls Superman the moment he’s in trouble (Kara’s attitude is understandable, even if she’s big picture wrong) and kind of being at Lucy Lane’s beck and call.

    People seem to think of Jimmy as a nerd in distress a lot of the time, but for most of his publishing history, he was an action man, doing his thing because Superman was in space, having his own fan club, and even turning into a Jack Kirby hero! So the fact that he’s this tall, buff, popular guy isn’t a problem for me. I don’t need the dated bowtie or the ginger hair. But it WOULD be cool if he were turned into Turtle Boy or some other freak at some point, wouldn’t it?

  4. Yeah I’ve been reviewing the show for TV For the Rest of Us, and generally pleased though some of its commonalities to Flash are starting to grate at times.

    Thought on Hank: maybe we can have both! Maybe there was a real Hank that Martian Manhunter replaced, only the accident that “killed” him was really the accident that created CySupes. So later on we can get Hank vs Hank action!

    James Olsen still bugs me though. Both for what you guys said and the simple question: Why not make him John Henry Irons? (steel) The actor seems a good fit and you could even have later plotlines with him putting on his suit to go help Supergirl.

    That and the change to Maxwell Lord. That’s twice now the show makers have felt the need to stick Iron Man into Earth!DCTV. If I wanted to watch Iron Man, I’ll go watch Iron Man. If you want to do “super-brilliant industrialist” then pick Ted Kord or Mr Terrific. If you want to do a battle suit, Booster Gold or a few others. Certainly don’t make up someone whole cloth and then slap a name on them that barely fits (had Ray Palmer been a scientist who worked for Oliver to develop the suit… maybe).

    1. Siskoid says:

      The guys you named can’t or at least shouldn’t be turned into villains though.

      1. Wasn’t that done to Mr Terrific in 5 years later (or whatever comic of the week story it was). lol

        The “can’t” just means they have an opportunity to do interesting things. Like why not have Ted & Max be in a business partnership? Then you could have Max be a villain, maybe dupe Ted a little to set up a later heroic turn and redemption… lots of stuff that could make for interesting stories and keep some of the heart of the characters. (heck if they just made up a character, call him “Stony Ark” or whatever) Not to mention that you can have characters which are antagonists without them being villains.

  5. Siskoid says:

    Great, now you’ve got ME saying “poor Wynn”.

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