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Alan Brennert Interview – FIRE & WATER #95

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The 95th episode of THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST is now available for your listening pleasure! THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST is the official podcast of FIRESTORM FAN and THE AQUAMAN SHRINE.

In this very special episode, Rob talks with comics & TV writer, and author Alan Brennert about his career both in and out of comics. Alan has written classic stories for Batman: Black and White, The Brave and the Bold, Daredevil, Detective Comics, and his newest book is Palisades Park, available from St. Martin’s Press.

You can find the 95th episode of THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST on iTunes. While you’re there, please drop us a review on the iTunes page. Every comment helps! Alternatively, you may download the podcast by right-clicking here, choosing “Save Target/Link As”, and selecting a location on your computer to save the file (75 MB).

As always, thanks to my co-host Rob Kelly, Sea King of THE AQUAMAN SHRINE, for doing all the post-production on these episodes! Opening theme, “That Time is Now,” by Michael Kohler. Special thanks to Daniel Adams and Ashton Burge with their band The Bad Mamma Jammas for our fantastic original closing theme!

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Here are a few of Alan’s comics discussed in this episode!

Brave and the Bold #182 by Alan Brennert

Daredevil #192 by Alan Brennert

Batman Holy Terror by Alan Brennert

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  1. rob! says:

    Hey everyone! There was a little screw up with the audio file that got posted, so the link above doesn’t work. Please download/stream the show from here:

    Thanks and my apologies!


  2. Shag says:

    I’ve updated the links in this post now. Enjoy this fantastic interview!

  3. Kyle Benning says:


    Great interview with a legend!!! Very interesting to hear about his career and friendship with Martin Pasko and Paul Levitz.

  4. Anj says:

    Just a fantastic episode. I have not read all these issues but the ones I have are personal favorites.

    But the cherry on the sundae was the indepth coverage on the Deadman/Supergirl storyline. I have also heard the rumors of Mark Waid sneaking it by editorial and getting in trouble. So to hear that everyone was on board with it was great. And fascinating that some folks wanted to take away the impact of that story by shoe-horning it into continuity. It *is* hard for me to believe that Dick Giordano was such a defender of the story and wanted it badly … he was the guy that okay’d killing her off in Crisis!

    And I liked reliving the Catwoman B&B and Detective #500, 2 of my favorite Batman stories!

    Thanks Rob and Alan!

  5. Martin Gray says:

    Rob, thank you, and Alan, so much for a truly fascinating show. Finally, we have authoritative clarification of the story that the Deadman/Kara story got Mark Waid fired from Secret Origins. It was the business with Dick Giordano drawing that made that make no sense to me, and yup, everyone was OK.

    I’m so sad now that we never got to see Alan’s Sally Salwyn story.

    With Alan’s agreement, you could repurpose this as a cover feature for Back Issue.

  6. Joe X says:

    Waid also followed up on the Secret Origins #50 story in his JLA Year One series. And just why DID Waid get fired from editorial? The story I’ve always heard involved that Cap’s Hobby Hints short from the 1988 DC Christmas reprint book that alluded to artist/murderer Greg Brooks.

  7. wolfgang hartz says:

    what happened to who’s who volume xxii (the one that deals with the two supermen)? I thought the who’s who podcast comes out the last weekend of every month. I’ve been waiting for volume XXII ever since the beginning of summer!

  8. rob! says:


    Due to various family, work, and other obligations, Shag and I have had a tough time being together long enough to record, which is why there have been/will be more shows with one of us missing.

    WHO’S WHO is the one show we don’t do without each other, so until we can get the 3 hours we need to do it properly, it’s going to have to wait. We appreciate people like the show so much that they miss it when it doesn’t arrive! But rest assured we will get to it asap.

  9. Frank says:

    I think the split is appropriate. Series always pull that sort of stunt a few months before the big centennial reunion special!

    Enjoyed the extended interview! Not terribly familiar with Alan Brennert. Looking over the checklist, I own 3 of the floppies and a reprint in The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told, but I’m not sure if I’ve read any of them. I’ve had/read at least one of the two Wonder Woman stories scripted by Pasko, but otherwise I have no experience with this fellow. Seems I need to change that.

    I understand that there’s a difference between a contractual obligation and a moral one. I’ve certainly armchair quarterbacked who was entitled to what in various disputes over the years. That said, the characters and concepts I love are never created by a corporation, but by creators who endeared me to their concepts through their execution. A corporation is always going to favor their contractual interests over any moral imperatives, but corporations are made up of people who can add, let’s say “nuance,” to addressing these matters. Currently, one management group is getting good press for ensuring a disabled creator gets to see his creation realized in a motion picture and offers some financial compensation toward his ongoing care which they were not contractually obligated to do, but they did it anyway. My heart’s going to be a lot softer toward those types of stewards than some contract fascists who clutch at $25 payments for creations earning millions just to show their resolve against any claimed rights by creators to whom they owe a substantial ethical and intellectual debt.

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