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Tales of the Kubert School – FIRE & WATER #120

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The 120th episode of THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST is now available for your listening pleasure! THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST is the official podcast of FIRESTORM FAN and THE AQUAMAN SHRINE.

Shag is off this week, so Rob is joined by artist and fellow Joe Kubert School alum John Trumbull for the oft-requested episode, “Tales From The Kubert School”!

You can find the 120th episode of THE FIRE AND WATER PODCAST on iTunes. While you’re there, please drop us a review on the iTunes page. Every comment helps! Alternatively, you may play the podcast using the player below or by right-clicking “download”, choosing “Save Target/Link As”, and selecting a location on your computer to save the file (90 MB).

As always, thanks to my co-host Rob Kelly, Sea King of THE AQUAMAN SHRINE, for doing all the post-production on these episodes! Opening theme, “That Time is Now,” by Michael Kohler. Special thanks to Daniel Adams and Ashton Burge with their band The Bad Mamma Jammas for our fantastic original closing theme! This episode brought to you in part by!

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  1. Xum Yukinori says:

    Wonderful program, Rob. And John, it is nice to hear your voice as a voice and not as my poor interpretation of how to read your online text.

    It sounded like the Joe Kubert School had provided a rewarding experience for you both, despite the “hardships” you had described. In fact, I believe your homework and class experiences were a true representation of the on-the-job experience of working in the comic book field (from the ongoing massive workload and tight deadlines to Jose Delbo telling you to change an illustration as if it were an editorial edict [at least that was how I interpreted that story]). This is more than what could be said about most “normal” colleges that tend to teach about a profession with more focus on the academia than real-world application. (I can say that I learned much more about advertising by working in the field than I did through my high-ranked UK college education…)

    I believe I can imagine the amount of work you had to put in, for I have worked a few years in a Hong Kong manhua studio as a background illustrator (which required long, late hours because I was not very fast — especially after an injury I had suffered… off the job). The studio had provided me with a small room with a cot and a portable gas stove, so maybe I can relate to the lodging experience as well? Hong Kong in the late-1980s to early-1990s was likely more interesting than Dover, New Jersey, so I will end my meager attempt to create a relatable comparison now…

    So will we see photos of any of your JKS works you both mentioned in this podcast on the Tumblr? I would love to see the two album covers in particular…

    And despite the initial ratings report I was “hearing” about this podcast on Facebook, I hope we will hear more “Tales from the Joe Kubert School.”

  2. Frank says:

    Haven’t had much free time for commenting on podcasts, but I listened to this episode twice and enjoyed it. Tough to criticize people reminiscing, but I expect I’ll manage.

    I can honestly say that I never had any interest in attending the Kubert School because I assumed it would be some dunghole in the middle of nowhere brimming with alpha nerd rat finks that would have put me in the poorhouse, so I was pleased to have that prejudice validated. Sounds like a worthwhile experience if you could manage it, though.

    Even a crappy film adaptation is more than most comic/strip creators get, though reviews seem to back up Dondi being the Barb Wire of 1961.

    I’m going to have to side with underrated Bronze Age Wonder Woman artist Jose Delbo against Rob, if for no other reason than any client can arbitrarily dismiss your effort and demand revisions without the artist having to accept their rationale.

    Great episode! More please!

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