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	<title>Comments on: DC RPG: The Hero Points Podcast, Episode 2 &#8211; The Atlas of the DC Universe</title>
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		<title>By: Keith G. Baker</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for the Middletown baseball team, the AotDCU says that Middleton incorporated with Denver in 1968. My guess is that this means Middleton would have become a suburb or township of Denver. This would mean that the Flamingos (or Wonders) would have been replaced by the new Denver MLB expansion team, the Colorado Rockies, in 1993.  Either that or Denver supported 2 MLB franchises like NY (Mets/Yankees), though that seems unlikely given the population differences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the Middletown baseball team, the AotDCU says that Middleton incorporated with Denver in 1968. My guess is that this means Middleton would have become a suburb or township of Denver. This would mean that the Flamingos (or Wonders) would have been replaced by the new Denver MLB expansion team, the Colorado Rockies, in 1993.  Either that or Denver supported 2 MLB franchises like NY (Mets/Yankees), though that seems unlikely given the population differences.</p>
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		<title>By: Siskoid</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Atlas certainly doesn&#039;t contain any references like that, but several sourcebooks made later do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Atlas certainly doesn&#8217;t contain any references like that, but several sourcebooks made later do!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith G. Baker</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank,

Never mind. I found 2 references on your blog to Detective Comics #226. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Never mind. I found 2 references on your blog to Detective Comics #226. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith G. Baker</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank:

Re: &quot;...Middletown’s local baseball team, though it isn’t clear whether they’re the Flamingos or the Wonders.&quot;

You don&#039;t my any chance have any Title/Issue #s for references to either team, do you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;&#8230;Middletown’s local baseball team, though it isn’t clear whether they’re the Flamingos or the Wonders.&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t my any chance have any Title/Issue #s for references to either team, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Benning</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2014/07/21/hero-points-02/comment-page-1/#comment-282614</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Benning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 20:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy crap that Charlton Arrow series sounds awesome! Doomsday +1 Pin-up by John Byrne?!?!?! Consider that bad boy purchased!! Great interview with Mr. Kupperberg! Super nice guy! I bought some stuff from him off of ebay a couple of months back and he was happy to sign and personalize some of the books for me that he had worked on. 

Interesting to hear all of the cities in Iowa that are referenced, over in the Marvel Universe my hometown of Waverly, IA, a present day booming metropolis of 11,000 people or so is the birthplace of Hawkeye! How many of you can say you share a hometown with an Avenger?!

I always felt like the way they portrayed Metropolis, it was New York City during the day, while Gotham tended to be New York at night. I could also see Gotham City as being in Chicago, with all of the organized crime. There is quite a bit of shipping that goes on in the great lakes, so Chicago being on Lake Michigan would still work. 

I&#039;m sure one of the other comments from listeners touched on this, but I&#039;m guessing that the &quot;Star Gate&quot; was used in comics over &quot;Boom Tube&quot; via one (or all) of the three volumes of the Super Powers comic mini series that DC put out. One of those was written by Kupperberg, so it&#039;d make sense that he went ahead and tied them together once and for all here in this RPG sourcebook.

I have always wanted to own this Atlas but have never gotten around to picking it up...I really need to get on that. 

Can&#039;t wait to hear what you guys cover next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap that Charlton Arrow series sounds awesome! Doomsday +1 Pin-up by John Byrne?!?!?! Consider that bad boy purchased!! Great interview with Mr. Kupperberg! Super nice guy! I bought some stuff from him off of ebay a couple of months back and he was happy to sign and personalize some of the books for me that he had worked on. </p>
<p>Interesting to hear all of the cities in Iowa that are referenced, over in the Marvel Universe my hometown of Waverly, IA, a present day booming metropolis of 11,000 people or so is the birthplace of Hawkeye! How many of you can say you share a hometown with an Avenger?!</p>
<p>I always felt like the way they portrayed Metropolis, it was New York City during the day, while Gotham tended to be New York at night. I could also see Gotham City as being in Chicago, with all of the organized crime. There is quite a bit of shipping that goes on in the great lakes, so Chicago being on Lake Michigan would still work. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure one of the other comments from listeners touched on this, but I&#8217;m guessing that the &#8220;Star Gate&#8221; was used in comics over &#8220;Boom Tube&#8221; via one (or all) of the three volumes of the Super Powers comic mini series that DC put out. One of those was written by Kupperberg, so it&#8217;d make sense that he went ahead and tied them together once and for all here in this RPG sourcebook.</p>
<p>I have always wanted to own this Atlas but have never gotten around to picking it up&#8230;I really need to get on that. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to hear what you guys cover next.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, for the record, bullet points do not work on Word Press. Here&#039;s a version with blessed line breaks...

Should we just go ahead and call it &lt;i&gt;DC RPG: The Hero Points Podcast Annual 2014&lt;/i&gt;?

My copy of the Atlas was badly water damaged in a longbox several years ago, from the upper third of the spine out several inches, but it&#039;s still readable. I keep it handy on the bookshelf next to my desk, just ahead of where my Showcase Presents/Marvel Essentials start to roll out. My Martian Manhunter Showcases would make it a shelf &amp; a half worth of that lot, but they&#039;re never actually on the shelf because I use them so much.

Nice interview! I can see the work done here more fully thanks to the podcast overview. I never noticed/appreciated the breakdown of industry/sports/etc.

Middleton, CO is the established home base of Dr. Saul Erdel in the Post-Crisis revision of the Martian Manhunter. However, there&#039;s some debate about where Middletown, home of Professor Mark Erdel and Detective John Jones&#039; Silver Age adventures was located. Scipio Garling thinks it&#039;s Florida, but he also redubbed Middletown &quot;Apex City&quot; on a personal whim, so I dispute that. Personally, I favor the region surrounding New England, which is lousy with Middletowns. Given its presumed proximity to Gotham City, it could also be one of the ones in New York or New Jersey.

Speaking of &quot;Apex,&quot; as with all DC Comics reference works, no one ever bothered to look at old Martian Manhunter stories to note all the references to Apex companies in his strip. Neither is Middletown&#039;s local baseball team, though it isn&#039;t clear whether they&#039;re the Flamingos or the Wonders.

Some reg&#039;lar folks from the Atlas not referenced in the podcast include stats for Ray Palmer&#039;s buddy Norman Brawler and wife Jean Loring, as well as Captain Atom&#039;s science chief Dr. Megala and Metal Men creator Dr. Will Magnus. Jack Ryder, Vic Sage and Wayne Tarrant are all under public figures.

Diablo Island is my favorite international location, followed by Gorilla City. Two hours is a long podcast, but still, any time I tuned out for half a minute you guys had already jumped a dozen pages.

So far, now that I&#039;ve got my own weekly podcast, nobody&#039;s tried to &quot;take the mickey&quot; out of me. So much for the concept of karma, eh? As a one time conceptual art effort, I&#039;d be willing to try a Skype session. Sounds like a scheduling nightmare, though.

Shag, for the love of god, double &quot;L&quot;s in Spanish words/names are pronounced as &quot;Y&quot;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, for the record, bullet points do not work on Word Press. Here&#8217;s a version with blessed line breaks&#8230;</p>
<p>Should we just go ahead and call it <i>DC RPG: The Hero Points Podcast Annual 2014</i>?</p>
<p>My copy of the Atlas was badly water damaged in a longbox several years ago, from the upper third of the spine out several inches, but it&#8217;s still readable. I keep it handy on the bookshelf next to my desk, just ahead of where my Showcase Presents/Marvel Essentials start to roll out. My Martian Manhunter Showcases would make it a shelf &amp; a half worth of that lot, but they&#8217;re never actually on the shelf because I use them so much.</p>
<p>Nice interview! I can see the work done here more fully thanks to the podcast overview. I never noticed/appreciated the breakdown of industry/sports/etc.</p>
<p>Middleton, CO is the established home base of Dr. Saul Erdel in the Post-Crisis revision of the Martian Manhunter. However, there&#8217;s some debate about where Middletown, home of Professor Mark Erdel and Detective John Jones&#8217; Silver Age adventures was located. Scipio Garling thinks it&#8217;s Florida, but he also redubbed Middletown &#8220;Apex City&#8221; on a personal whim, so I dispute that. Personally, I favor the region surrounding New England, which is lousy with Middletowns. Given its presumed proximity to Gotham City, it could also be one of the ones in New York or New Jersey.</p>
<p>Speaking of &#8220;Apex,&#8221; as with all DC Comics reference works, no one ever bothered to look at old Martian Manhunter stories to note all the references to Apex companies in his strip. Neither is Middletown&#8217;s local baseball team, though it isn&#8217;t clear whether they&#8217;re the Flamingos or the Wonders.</p>
<p>Some reg&#8217;lar folks from the Atlas not referenced in the podcast include stats for Ray Palmer&#8217;s buddy Norman Brawler and wife Jean Loring, as well as Captain Atom&#8217;s science chief Dr. Megala and Metal Men creator Dr. Will Magnus. Jack Ryder, Vic Sage and Wayne Tarrant are all under public figures.</p>
<p>Diablo Island is my favorite international location, followed by Gorilla City. Two hours is a long podcast, but still, any time I tuned out for half a minute you guys had already jumped a dozen pages.</p>
<p>So far, now that I&#8217;ve got my own weekly podcast, nobody&#8217;s tried to &#8220;take the mickey&#8221; out of me. So much for the concept of karma, eh? As a one time conceptual art effort, I&#8217;d be willing to try a Skype session. Sounds like a scheduling nightmare, though.</p>
<p>Shag, for the love of god, double &#8220;L&#8221;s in Spanish words/names are pronounced as &#8220;Y&#8221;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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Should we just go ahead and call it &lt;i&gt;DC RPG: The Hero Points Podcast Annual 2014&lt;/i&gt;?
My copy of the Atlas was badly water damaged in a longbox several years ago, from the upper third of the spine out several inches, but it&#039;s still readable. I keep it handy on the bookshelf next to my desk, just ahead of where my Showcase Presents/Marvel Essentials start to roll out. My Martian Manhunter Showcases would make it a shelf &amp; a half worth of that lot, but they&#039;re never actually on the shelf because I use them so much.
Nice interview! I can see the work done here more fully thanks to the podcast overview. I never noticed/appreciated the breakdown of industry/sports/etc.
Middleton, CO is the established home base of Dr. Saul Erdel in the Post-Crisis revision of the Martian Manhunter. However, there&#039;s some debate about where Middletown, home of Professor Mark Erdel and Detective John Jones&#039; Silver Age adventures was located. Scipio Garling thinks it&#039;s Florida, but he also redubbed Middletown &quot;Apex City&quot; on a personal whim, so I dispute that. Personally, I favor the region surrounding New England, which is lousy with Middletowns. Given its presumed proximity to Gotham City, it could also be one of the ones in New York or New Jersey.
Speaking of &quot;Apex,&quot; as with all DC Comics reference works, no one ever bothered to look at old Martian Manhunter stories to note all the references to Apex companies in his strip. Neither is Middletown&#039;s local baseball team, though it isn&#039;t clear whether they&#039;re the Flamingos or the Wonders.
Some reg&#039;lar folks from the Atlas not referenced in the podcast include stats for Ray Palmer&#039;s buddy Norman Brawler and wife Jean Loring, as well as Captain Atom&#039;s science chief Dr. Megala and Metal Men creator Dr. Will Magnus. Jack Ryder, Vic Sage and Wayne Tarrant are all under public figures.
Diablo Island is my favorite international location, followed by Gorilla City. Two hours is a long podcast, but still, any time I tuned out for half a minute you guys had already jumped a dozen pages.
So far, now that I&#039;ve got my own weekly podcast, nobody&#039;s tried to &quot;take the mickey&quot; out of me. So much for the concept of karma, eh? As a one time conceptual art effort, I&#039;d be willing to try a Skype session. Sounds like a scheduling nightmare, though.
Shag, for the love of god, double &quot;L&quot;s in Spanish words/names are pronounced as &quot;Y&quot;s.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we just go ahead and call it <i>DC RPG: The Hero Points Podcast Annual 2014</i>?<br />
My copy of the Atlas was badly water damaged in a longbox several years ago, from the upper third of the spine out several inches, but it&#8217;s still readable. I keep it handy on the bookshelf next to my desk, just ahead of where my Showcase Presents/Marvel Essentials start to roll out. My Martian Manhunter Showcases would make it a shelf &amp; a half worth of that lot, but they&#8217;re never actually on the shelf because I use them so much.<br />
Nice interview! I can see the work done here more fully thanks to the podcast overview. I never noticed/appreciated the breakdown of industry/sports/etc.<br />
Middleton, CO is the established home base of Dr. Saul Erdel in the Post-Crisis revision of the Martian Manhunter. However, there&#8217;s some debate about where Middletown, home of Professor Mark Erdel and Detective John Jones&#8217; Silver Age adventures was located. Scipio Garling thinks it&#8217;s Florida, but he also redubbed Middletown &#8220;Apex City&#8221; on a personal whim, so I dispute that. Personally, I favor the region surrounding New England, which is lousy with Middletowns. Given its presumed proximity to Gotham City, it could also be one of the ones in New York or New Jersey.<br />
Speaking of &#8220;Apex,&#8221; as with all DC Comics reference works, no one ever bothered to look at old Martian Manhunter stories to note all the references to Apex companies in his strip. Neither is Middletown&#8217;s local baseball team, though it isn&#8217;t clear whether they&#8217;re the Flamingos or the Wonders.<br />
Some reg&#8217;lar folks from the Atlas not referenced in the podcast include stats for Ray Palmer&#8217;s buddy Norman Brawler and wife Jean Loring, as well as Captain Atom&#8217;s science chief Dr. Megala and Metal Men creator Dr. Will Magnus. Jack Ryder, Vic Sage and Wayne Tarrant are all under public figures.<br />
Diablo Island is my favorite international location, followed by Gorilla City. Two hours is a long podcast, but still, any time I tuned out for half a minute you guys had already jumped a dozen pages.<br />
So far, now that I&#8217;ve got my own weekly podcast, nobody&#8217;s tried to &#8220;take the mickey&#8221; out of me. So much for the concept of karma, eh? As a one time conceptual art effort, I&#8217;d be willing to try a Skype session. Sounds like a scheduling nightmare, though.<br />
Shag, for the love of god, double &#8220;L&#8221;s in Spanish words/names are pronounced as &#8220;Y&#8221;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Xum Yukinori</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I mentioned this on the FWP blog, but  I believe that cut-off Zandia entry was supposed to end along the lines of &quot;...centuries-long curse was finally broken).&quot; -- if that helps.

The Silver Twist also appeared in Green Lantern v2 #110. Tne interesting thing about the Silver Twist phenomenon (doo doo dee doo doo) that was not mentioned in the Atlas is that the dimensions Green Lantern and Green Arrow travelled to seemed to be keyed to one of the traveller&#039;s subconscious in some way. This was to explain why they ended up in a Robin-Hood-type of scenario in Green Lantern v2 #92 (Ollie&#039;s influence) and a John-Wayne-Western-like scenario in Green Lantern v2 #110 (Hal&#039;s influence).

And Darkseid saying &quot;Silver Twist&quot; made my day. Thank you.

Best,
Xum]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned this on the FWP blog, but  I believe that cut-off Zandia entry was supposed to end along the lines of &#8220;&#8230;centuries-long curse was finally broken).&#8221; &#8212; if that helps.</p>
<p>The Silver Twist also appeared in Green Lantern v2 #110. Tne interesting thing about the Silver Twist phenomenon (doo doo dee doo doo) that was not mentioned in the Atlas is that the dimensions Green Lantern and Green Arrow travelled to seemed to be keyed to one of the traveller&#8217;s subconscious in some way. This was to explain why they ended up in a Robin-Hood-type of scenario in Green Lantern v2 #92 (Ollie&#8217;s influence) and a John-Wayne-Western-like scenario in Green Lantern v2 #110 (Hal&#8217;s influence).</p>
<p>And Darkseid saying &#8220;Silver Twist&#8221; made my day. Thank you.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Xum</p>
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		<title>By: Siskoid</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Count D: That sounds like the Fire &amp; Water slogan.

Chris: You&#039;ll find the Twist in Green Lantern Vol. 2 #92 (December 1976-January 1977).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count D: That sounds like the Fire &amp; Water slogan.</p>
<p>Chris: You&#8217;ll find the Twist in Green Lantern Vol. 2 #92 (December 1976-January 1977).</p>
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		<title>By: Earth 2 Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great episode guys. The Atlas is amongst those Mayfair books that still sit on my bookshelf. I do recall scratching my head about both Metropolis and Gotham being in Delaware and New Jersey, though. In hindsight it makes sense, but at the time I thought New York should just be a bigger state in the DCU. Of course, I&#039;ve heard Metropolis compared to Chicago, and Joe Shuster based Superman&#039;s hometown on his then current residence of Cleveland, Ohio, so who knows?

I did find it fascinating to find out the back stories of the lesser known towns in the DCU, like Ivytown, Blue Valley, etc. Made the world, and the universe, just seem that much more real and alive.

The interview with Paul Kupperberg was a blast. I&#039;m sure researching the book was a mind-numbing experience. Bringing in obscure things like &quot;The Silver Twist&quot; you mentioned, shows how deep he dug for info. I&#039;m not certain, but I&#039;d guess that weird space phenomenon (that does indeed sound a lot like The Nexus from Star Trek: Generations) came from the later O&#039;Neil/Grell/Sauviak run of Green Lantern/Green Arrow, which was a straight super hero book.

Looking forward to hearing more!

Chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great episode guys. The Atlas is amongst those Mayfair books that still sit on my bookshelf. I do recall scratching my head about both Metropolis and Gotham being in Delaware and New Jersey, though. In hindsight it makes sense, but at the time I thought New York should just be a bigger state in the DCU. Of course, I&#8217;ve heard Metropolis compared to Chicago, and Joe Shuster based Superman&#8217;s hometown on his then current residence of Cleveland, Ohio, so who knows?</p>
<p>I did find it fascinating to find out the back stories of the lesser known towns in the DCU, like Ivytown, Blue Valley, etc. Made the world, and the universe, just seem that much more real and alive.</p>
<p>The interview with Paul Kupperberg was a blast. I&#8217;m sure researching the book was a mind-numbing experience. Bringing in obscure things like &#8220;The Silver Twist&#8221; you mentioned, shows how deep he dug for info. I&#8217;m not certain, but I&#8217;d guess that weird space phenomenon (that does indeed sound a lot like The Nexus from Star Trek: Generations) came from the later O&#8217;Neil/Grell/Sauviak run of Green Lantern/Green Arrow, which was a straight super hero book.</p>
<p>Looking forward to hearing more!</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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