Comments on: Bob Haney Showcase: Brave & The Bold – FIRE & WATER #93

By: Siskoid

Siskoid — Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:23:03 +0000

Well this was a whole lot of fun. I love Bob Haney, as you know, and I admit it’s been too long since I did anything with that love over on the SBG. I’d covered the entire first Showcase of Teen Titans very early, on still consider my Brave and the Bold vs. Marvel Two-in-One feature active even if I haven’t touched it in years.

I should remedy that. Interested parties: http://siskoid.blogspot.ca/search/label/BnB%202-in1

I never got to these particular issues, but I did cover Batman’s first team ups with both the Titans (the one where Batman prefers an evil son to Robin) and Sgt. Rock (the one where Batman is alive and fighting Nazis in WWII Europe).

By: Adam

Adam — Sat, 02 Aug 2014 08:16:07 +0000

I don’t know if this has been mentioned anywhere yet but Batman was shown to be deputized as far back as 1941, but they started playing up the fact that he was deputized during the days of the Comics code. Because as it said ” Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.”

By: Xum Yukinori

Xum Yukinori — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:15:24 +0000

Thank you for the referral, Chris. That was a fun podcast. And I didn’t realize that Hawk and Dove story was written by Mr. Brennert. I must have just assumed it was Bob Haney because the story just seemed like one Mr. Haney would have written.

Thank you for setting me straight.

Best,
Xum

By: Earth 2 Chris

Earth 2 Chris — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:49:28 +0000

^Hey Xum,

Rob, my wife Cindy, and I briefly touch on that B&B Hawk and Dove tale…and the continuity controversy in the Alan Brennert spotlight, episode #8 of Super Mates: http://www.supermatescomic.blogspot.com/

End of plug.

Chris

By: Xum Yukinori

Xum Yukinori — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 03:27:04 +0000

Martin, I believe Shag was thinking of the 2000 Committee, which opposed Firestorm in the early 1980s…

I hope you gentlemen will one day cover the Brave and the Bold story which featured Hawk and Dove as adults. I found it interesting how ICG’s Official Teen Titans Index went out of its way to explain how that story fits into DC Pre-Crisis Continuity… while Tales of the Teen Titans #50 actually made a reference to the story while dismissing it from continuity at the same time…

By: Martin Gray

Martin Gray — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:37:52 +0000

Terrific episode chaps, I enjoyed it hugely. I’ve not read either of those issues, but had seen the Rock cover many times and was curious. How nutty. It’s a shame Aparo didn’t get ill drawing this issue, that would have thrown a spanner in the terrorists’ work.

Tiny thing, Shag, it was just the 100 and the 1000, no Committee. You may be thinking of Supergirl’s The Gang Committee …

I second Anj on that Wondy/Supergirl issue, it was just nuts. If you go away from Haney, but stay with bonkers, how about Wonder Woman #185, Them! It’s easily available in one of the recent Diana Prince paperbacks.

By: Tim Wallace

Tim Wallace — Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:10:30 +0000

A very entertaining episode! I remember reading that issue with Sgt Rock early in my collecting days, and young me being incredibly confused…why the heck are writers and artists in this book! I need to dig this out and read it again!

I was checking comicbookdb, looking at some of Haney’s credits trying to jog my memory…what else I have I read…what story would I have picked? And noticed…he wrote a fair number of things for DC’s horror books too…”House of Mystery”, “House of Secrets”, “Ghosts”, “Witching Hour”…who has the Showcase editions of these and is going home after work to see if these stories are as zaney as his superhero stuff? This guy!

By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 24 Jun 2014 03:53:18 +0000

I wasn’t going to let truth get in the way of my sarcasm, but I could totally tell that Yahoo Buzzfeedified you with all those bullet points, set-ups, and quotation marks. Your content still read well enough, but the contortions, man… Some say the world will end in fire, others say listicles.

By: rob!

rob! — Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:40:09 +0000

“4 Reasons?” Real super-heroes go 5 or go home. 10, usually.

That was the work of Yahoo. My original wasn’t such a formal list.

By: Frank

Frank — Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:31:58 +0000

Great alternate theme music! Can wait to hear you guys discuss Metamorpho the Element Mmmother#$%^&*s.

Once again, you guys posted on the same day rumors broke that in BvS, Wonder Woman will wear her “classic costume” of blue leather skirt, extended Byrne bracelets, gold tiara and red top. JoBlo reports that she’ll use a Captain America style shield, sword, spear, and lasso. No origin, and very active participant in BvS and its finale. Still, to my eyes, Gal Gadot remains less Gina Carano, more Olive Oyl.

Superman, Batman and supposedly Wonder Woman are all on-model, which gives credence to Rob’s assertions about Aquaman, but I think the truth will be closer to the middle of his and Shag’s extremes. I doubt Momoa will get a dye job, or even a haircut, but the beard is going to go. Maybe rock a ponytail? Introduce him topless in BvS, have him suit up for Justice League, get two action figures out of the deal. Warner Brothers doesn’t believe in humor, so no Thorstyle slapstack & wench talk, but surely a more surly PAD demeanor. Still ironic that Rob thinks Aquaman is beating Namor to the silver screen when clearly they’ll debut simultaneously as an Amalgam.

Shag, why aren’t you wanting Game of Thrones? What’s wrong with you?

“4 Reasons?” Real super-heroes go 5 or go home. 10, usually. Still, congrats!

You know, I couldn’t appreciate Haney Teen Titans when I was deep into that team, and today I don’t think there’s a property Haney has been associated with that I have less interest in reading. They’re so square for ’72 even beatniks would finger them as narcs.

Given how Roy Harper treats domesticated cats, filthy rats never had a chance for sympathy. What, no impromptu skinny dipping scene?

My favorite Brave & the Bold team-up was with Ragman. Hope you guys cover it with Chad Bokelman sometime.

My, you chaps certainly have given up on keeping the language gentlemanly. Tut-tut.

Imagine if Sgt. Rock had been Batman’s ongoing sidekick. That “no guns” policy would have gone straight out of the window. I doubt that Arkham Asylum would have been so full, but Rock may have gone rogue, forcing Batman to send him up to Stryker’s Island. Say, wouldn’t the second volume of Suicide Squad have revalidated these story, in a certain fashion? Anyway, the meta-story was a gas. “The Jim Aparo Fan Club” is a blog, by the way. Oh, and the Joe Kubert packaging was enough to trick me into buying a crappy Sgt. Rock action figure, but only the one.