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	<title>Comments on: Aquaman Annual #1, Nick Cardy RIP, DC Moves West &#8211; FIRE &amp; WATER #69</title>
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		<title>By: Count Drunkula</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/11/11/fire-water-69/comment-page-1/#comment-178468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Count Drunkula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said before--and often--that Michael Keaton was my favorite Bruce Wayne because a) he didn&#039;t look like an Olympian, and b) he DID look haunted by his parents&#039; murder.  You can see shots of him in those two movies where that traumatized little boy is staring out through Keaton&#039;s eyes.  I thought Bale was fine, but his performance was more manufactured by the directing, lighting, voice modifying, everything.  I think Clooney is just naturally &quot;watchable&quot;.  He doesn&#039;t have a great range, but he has charisma, which would make his Batman entertaining.  Well, it should have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said before&#8211;and often&#8211;that Michael Keaton was my favorite Bruce Wayne because a) he didn&#8217;t look like an Olympian, and b) he DID look haunted by his parents&#8217; murder.  You can see shots of him in those two movies where that traumatized little boy is staring out through Keaton&#8217;s eyes.  I thought Bale was fine, but his performance was more manufactured by the directing, lighting, voice modifying, everything.  I think Clooney is just naturally &#8220;watchable&#8221;.  He doesn&#8217;t have a great range, but he has charisma, which would make his Batman entertaining.  Well, it should have.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Koury</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Koury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because the Ultraverse was awesome!!!  That&#039;s why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the Ultraverse was awesome!!!  That&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/11/11/fire-water-69/comment-page-1/#comment-177195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) I was a fan of Garth Ennis going back to &lt;i&gt;Hellblazer&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;The Demon&lt;/i&gt;, but the appeal was wearing off by the second year of &lt;i&gt;Preacher&lt;/i&gt;. I was going to switch to trades, but instead skimmed the issues as they past through my shop/took home stripped cover copies, and never felt the need. I did not enjoy the finale, and hope that if the TV show is successful, they should steal the ending from Ostrander/Mandrake&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Spectre&lt;/i&gt;, instead. I&#039;d back Rob&#039;s recommendation of &quot;Until the End of the World&quot; as probably the last great Ennis/Preacher story I read. 

2) I&#039;m not enough of a Doctor Who fan to fully appreciate &quot;Night of the Doctor,&quot; but it was neat to me as a layperson, and I&#039;m glad to hear it was so comprehensive in currying expanded universe fan favor.

3) The Good Time of Fireslut, the Airtight Man! God, everybody in the League&#039;s been inside that guy! Isn&#039;t it odd that Geoff Johns killed Damage, the spark that ignited the Big Bang when the DC Universe was recreated during &lt;i&gt;Zero Hour&lt;/i&gt;? I&#039;m finding &lt;i&gt;Forever Evil&lt;/i&gt; missable, but the first JLofA tie-in was alright.

4) I think Scipio once wrote a lengthy blog piece about the fixation on internalizing the formerly technologically-enabled powers of old characters that began in the 1980s. Someone like Heat Wave maybe needs that kind of &quot;boost,&quot;  but ice and flame powers are so common that wielding a specialized gun helps set these guys apart. Captain Cold is better as a regular guy with a sweet piece than a more fashion-challenged Icicle.

5) I don&#039;t understand the inclusion of the C3PO/R2D2 PSA. The Christmas Special talk? Maybe the Fire &amp; Water Soundtrack cuts could just be reprised when Rob&#039;s reaching that far. In 2013, I don&#039;t see the point of a CD pressing when everyone just downloads MP3s these days.

6) There&#039;s an NSA guy who listens to the recording of the Fire &amp; Water Podcast on Skype and moans about how the opportunity is wasted on him. Tries unsuccessfully to swap with a BBC cyber-spy.

7) I tried Marvel UK, Milestone, Valiant, Image, Dark Horse Comics Greatest World, Harris, Triumphant, Defiant, Broadway, and even Malibu&#039;s Protector&#039;s line, but the one Chromium Age universe attempt that never remotely grabbed me was the Ultraverse. Why Shag? Why?

8) Of all the spin-offs you guys have approved, you turn down the DC Classics Podcast?

9) I would have liked an original issue of &lt;i&gt;The Brave and the Bold&lt;/i&gt; that teamed Batman with Martian Manhunter. There was a late &#039;90s two-parter in &#039;Tec by Dixon, Nolan &amp; Barreto that kind of fills the hole, as well as a &lt;i&gt;World&#039;s Finest&lt;/i&gt; issue by Bob Haney with Superman &amp; J&#039;onn (&amp; Batman and Hawkman, to a lesser extent) but it&#039;s just not the same. Firestorm&#039;s team-up with Blue Devil was probably the first Nuclear Man comic I ever bought. I liked the crossover okay, but I obviously stuck with the Devil and only occasionally revisited Firestorm. I initially preferred team-up books to team books because you got more time with the individual characters, but then I got drawn into the X-Men soap opera.

10) After &lt;i&gt;American Psycho&lt;/i&gt;, I was campaigning for Christian Bale as Batman, but I have to say he turned out to be the worst Batman. I liked Keaton as Bruce Wayne but never Batman, and vice versa for Val Kilmer. I&#039;ve successfully avoided &lt;i&gt;Batman &amp; Robin&lt;/i&gt;, but Clooney seemed okay, and he didn&#039;t speak with a laughable fake voice. Come to think of it, I&#039;m probably still least critical and most accepting of Adam West.

11) I suspect Wall-Mart got away from comics in part to avoid more controversies like the Spawn lynching issue and the Memín Pinguín kerfuffle. I&#039;m sure dealing with stripped cover returns in a non-magazine section didn&#039;t help, nor the ease of theft on product with a high cost/low profit yield. Anyway, the point is moot, because printed periodicals are dead, and we&#039;ll see $0.99 digital downloads become the norm soon enough. The direct market increasingly fails to matter, and the newsstand is all but deceased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I was a fan of Garth Ennis going back to <i>Hellblazer</i> and <i>The Demon</i>, but the appeal was wearing off by the second year of <i>Preacher</i>. I was going to switch to trades, but instead skimmed the issues as they past through my shop/took home stripped cover copies, and never felt the need. I did not enjoy the finale, and hope that if the TV show is successful, they should steal the ending from Ostrander/Mandrake&#8217;s <i>The Spectre</i>, instead. I&#8217;d back Rob&#8217;s recommendation of &#8220;Until the End of the World&#8221; as probably the last great Ennis/Preacher story I read. </p>
<p>2) I&#8217;m not enough of a Doctor Who fan to fully appreciate &#8220;Night of the Doctor,&#8221; but it was neat to me as a layperson, and I&#8217;m glad to hear it was so comprehensive in currying expanded universe fan favor.</p>
<p>3) The Good Time of Fireslut, the Airtight Man! God, everybody in the League&#8217;s been inside that guy! Isn&#8217;t it odd that Geoff Johns killed Damage, the spark that ignited the Big Bang when the DC Universe was recreated during <i>Zero Hour</i>? I&#8217;m finding <i>Forever Evil</i> missable, but the first JLofA tie-in was alright.</p>
<p>4) I think Scipio once wrote a lengthy blog piece about the fixation on internalizing the formerly technologically-enabled powers of old characters that began in the 1980s. Someone like Heat Wave maybe needs that kind of &#8220;boost,&#8221;  but ice and flame powers are so common that wielding a specialized gun helps set these guys apart. Captain Cold is better as a regular guy with a sweet piece than a more fashion-challenged Icicle.</p>
<p>5) I don&#8217;t understand the inclusion of the C3PO/R2D2 PSA. The Christmas Special talk? Maybe the Fire &amp; Water Soundtrack cuts could just be reprised when Rob&#8217;s reaching that far. In 2013, I don&#8217;t see the point of a CD pressing when everyone just downloads MP3s these days.</p>
<p>6) There&#8217;s an NSA guy who listens to the recording of the Fire &amp; Water Podcast on Skype and moans about how the opportunity is wasted on him. Tries unsuccessfully to swap with a BBC cyber-spy.</p>
<p>7) I tried Marvel UK, Milestone, Valiant, Image, Dark Horse Comics Greatest World, Harris, Triumphant, Defiant, Broadway, and even Malibu&#8217;s Protector&#8217;s line, but the one Chromium Age universe attempt that never remotely grabbed me was the Ultraverse. Why Shag? Why?</p>
<p>8) Of all the spin-offs you guys have approved, you turn down the DC Classics Podcast?</p>
<p>9) I would have liked an original issue of <i>The Brave and the Bold</i> that teamed Batman with Martian Manhunter. There was a late &#8217;90s two-parter in &#8216;Tec by Dixon, Nolan &amp; Barreto that kind of fills the hole, as well as a <i>World&#8217;s Finest</i> issue by Bob Haney with Superman &amp; J&#8217;onn (&amp; Batman and Hawkman, to a lesser extent) but it&#8217;s just not the same. Firestorm&#8217;s team-up with Blue Devil was probably the first Nuclear Man comic I ever bought. I liked the crossover okay, but I obviously stuck with the Devil and only occasionally revisited Firestorm. I initially preferred team-up books to team books because you got more time with the individual characters, but then I got drawn into the X-Men soap opera.</p>
<p>10) After <i>American Psycho</i>, I was campaigning for Christian Bale as Batman, but I have to say he turned out to be the worst Batman. I liked Keaton as Bruce Wayne but never Batman, and vice versa for Val Kilmer. I&#8217;ve successfully avoided <i>Batman &amp; Robin</i>, but Clooney seemed okay, and he didn&#8217;t speak with a laughable fake voice. Come to think of it, I&#8217;m probably still least critical and most accepting of Adam West.</p>
<p>11) I suspect Wall-Mart got away from comics in part to avoid more controversies like the Spawn lynching issue and the Memín Pinguín kerfuffle. I&#8217;m sure dealing with stripped cover returns in a non-magazine section didn&#8217;t help, nor the ease of theft on product with a high cost/low profit yield. Anyway, the point is moot, because printed periodicals are dead, and we&#8217;ll see $0.99 digital downloads become the norm soon enough. The direct market increasingly fails to matter, and the newsstand is all but deceased.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Jaconetti</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/11/11/fire-water-69/comment-page-1/#comment-174608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke Jaconetti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shag -- By the same token, Marvel&#039;s TV output is... Agents of SHIELD.  These Netflix shows are &quot;in development&quot; too. Although, Gotham got a straight to series order, meaning that it is a sure thing.  

Honestly, and this coming from a born New Yorker, I couldn&#039;t care less about DC moving out West.  2/3rds of the &quot;big three&quot; at DC were already out West anyway.  And bemoaning DC making &quot;movies like Green Lantern&quot; while ignoring Man Of Steel and the Nolan Batman films is not fair in my opinion, considering DC Entertainment&#039;s obvious success for the majority of their films.

That&#039;s just my opinion.  I&#039;m sure someone will inform me why I am wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shag &#8212; By the same token, Marvel&#8217;s TV output is&#8230; Agents of SHIELD.  These Netflix shows are &#8220;in development&#8221; too. Although, Gotham got a straight to series order, meaning that it is a sure thing.  </p>
<p>Honestly, and this coming from a born New Yorker, I couldn&#8217;t care less about DC moving out West.  2/3rds of the &#8220;big three&#8221; at DC were already out West anyway.  And bemoaning DC making &#8220;movies like Green Lantern&#8221; while ignoring Man Of Steel and the Nolan Batman films is not fair in my opinion, considering DC Entertainment&#8217;s obvious success for the majority of their films.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just my opinion.  I&#8217;m sure someone will inform me why I am wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Shag</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luke - Thanks for your comments.  To be fair, I think I was pretty complimentary of the Annual and Nick Cardy.  I&#039;ll freely admit I&#039;m not happy about DC&#039;s move to the West Coast.  That&#039;s a fair gripe.

DC&#039;s TV output is currently... Arrow.  All the other shows are still &quot;in development&quot;.  &quot;Comic Scene&quot; magazine from the 1980s was full of TV shows &quot;in development&quot; that never hit the screen.  Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke &#8211; Thanks for your comments.  To be fair, I think I was pretty complimentary of the Annual and Nick Cardy.  I&#8217;ll freely admit I&#8217;m not happy about DC&#8217;s move to the West Coast.  That&#8217;s a fair gripe.</p>
<p>DC&#8217;s TV output is currently&#8230; Arrow.  All the other shows are still &#8220;in development&#8221;.  &#8220;Comic Scene&#8221; magazine from the 1980s was full of TV shows &#8220;in development&#8221; that never hit the screen.  Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Jaconetti</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/11/11/fire-water-69/comment-page-1/#comment-174414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke Jaconetti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fellas, Luke Cage was a recurring member of The Defenders for 3 years in the mid-70s.

Complaining about DC&#039;s TV output?  Uh, Arrow, Gotham City, Constantine, Flash spin-off of Arrow.  Yeah, no development on that front whatsoever.  And DC can&#039;t put together a good movie, huh?  Okay.

Sorry, this episode was a whole lot of kivetching and complaining on top of some nice recollections of Nick Cardy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellas, Luke Cage was a recurring member of The Defenders for 3 years in the mid-70s.</p>
<p>Complaining about DC&#8217;s TV output?  Uh, Arrow, Gotham City, Constantine, Flash spin-off of Arrow.  Yeah, no development on that front whatsoever.  And DC can&#8217;t put together a good movie, huh?  Okay.</p>
<p>Sorry, this episode was a whole lot of kivetching and complaining on top of some nice recollections of Nick Cardy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Benning</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/11/11/fire-water-69/comment-page-1/#comment-174044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Benning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great episode guys.

Rob, those are two nice personal stories about visiting the DC Offices in New York, sorry to hear they didn&#039;t end better, but still 2 great stories from your past experiences, thank you for sharing. I share your sentiments that it&#039;s sad they&#039;re moving. New York holds so much culture, and I think Comics are a great piece of our American culture and serve as windows into the past, as our country grew out of the Great Depression and moved triumphantly through WW II. I think Comics have shared that history with New York over the past 75+ years. Ellis Island the gateway to America so many families here, the Statue of Liberty, and the head of DC Comics, it doesn&#039;t seem right to have the center of culture now lose a mainstay of culture and what for the most part has been a uniquely American artform for the past 3/4 century. It&#039;s really too bad they&#039;re moving, and I can&#039;t help but feel that there isn&#039;t really anything at DC that I recognize anymore. They&#039;ve traded all of their history, culture, and great past, for a trendy new look, in the trendy new hub of hipstery on the west coast.

Sad to see Nick Cardy gone, he was a great artist, and I really enjoyed your interview with him. I wish his family the best.

Fan the Flame and Ride the Wave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great episode guys.</p>
<p>Rob, those are two nice personal stories about visiting the DC Offices in New York, sorry to hear they didn&#8217;t end better, but still 2 great stories from your past experiences, thank you for sharing. I share your sentiments that it&#8217;s sad they&#8217;re moving. New York holds so much culture, and I think Comics are a great piece of our American culture and serve as windows into the past, as our country grew out of the Great Depression and moved triumphantly through WW II. I think Comics have shared that history with New York over the past 75+ years. Ellis Island the gateway to America so many families here, the Statue of Liberty, and the head of DC Comics, it doesn&#8217;t seem right to have the center of culture now lose a mainstay of culture and what for the most part has been a uniquely American artform for the past 3/4 century. It&#8217;s really too bad they&#8217;re moving, and I can&#8217;t help but feel that there isn&#8217;t really anything at DC that I recognize anymore. They&#8217;ve traded all of their history, culture, and great past, for a trendy new look, in the trendy new hub of hipstery on the west coast.</p>
<p>Sad to see Nick Cardy gone, he was a great artist, and I really enjoyed your interview with him. I wish his family the best.</p>
<p>Fan the Flame and Ride the Wave.</p>
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