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	<title>Comments on: Aquaman &amp; Justice League #20 Reviews &#8211; FIRE &amp; WATER #55</title>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Martin Stein Returns, &quot;A song is a song, you either dig it, or you don&#039;t.&quot;  If you don&#039;t like the concept of The Green Team, go read Simone&#039;s The Movement.  Or don&#039;t.  All I say is try to look past what you might normally read and find that &quot;something different,&quot; whether it&#039;s from DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Image, IDW, Boom, Zenescope, Bongo, Moonstone, or any other publisher...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin Stein Returns, &#8220;A song is a song, you either dig it, or you don&#8217;t.&#8221;  If you don&#8217;t like the concept of The Green Team, go read Simone&#8217;s The Movement.  Or don&#8217;t.  All I say is try to look past what you might normally read and find that &#8220;something different,&#8221; whether it&#8217;s from DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Image, IDW, Boom, Zenescope, Bongo, Moonstone, or any other publisher&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Stein Returns</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Stein Returns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Did you guys actually read Green Team #1? You should try it, because it is once again that elusive &#039;something different&#039; which everyone constantly clamors for but never buys. After all it’s not another freaking Batman comic.&quot;

I completely agree with the sentiment that comics need the &quot;something different&quot; and that &quot;not another freaking Batman comic&quot; would be welcome.  But I think the concept behind the Green Team is appalling and I won&#039;t be trying it out.  I won&#039;t say much more than that.  Given some of the things I&#039;ve said in the past, you can probably imagine why.  I hope that&#039;s vague enough to survive moderation and to not start a fight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did you guys actually read Green Team #1? You should try it, because it is once again that elusive &#8216;something different&#8217; which everyone constantly clamors for but never buys. After all it’s not another freaking Batman comic.&#8221;</p>
<p>I completely agree with the sentiment that comics need the &#8220;something different&#8221; and that &#8220;not another freaking Batman comic&#8221; would be welcome.  But I think the concept behind the Green Team is appalling and I won&#8217;t be trying it out.  I won&#8217;t say much more than that.  Given some of the things I&#8217;ve said in the past, you can probably imagine why.  I hope that&#8217;s vague enough to survive moderation and to not start a fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Stein Returns</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Stein Returns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) Being Polish myself, I&#039;m pretty sure the surname you butche--- er, I mean, tried to pronounce is &quot;Za-VEE-sha.&quot;  

2) I&#039;m so glad Rob got to meet Alan Brennert.  Not wanting to steal Rob&#039;s thunder, but I too had the pleasure of Mr. Brennert&#039;s company for lunch back when I lived in California.  I wrote to him and told him how the 1980s Twilight Zone episode &quot;Her Pilgrim Soul&quot; had inspired me to write my first musical for community theater, which in turn got me into music school as a music major.  He was quite tickled by that, and since I already lived in southern California, it was easy for us to hook up.  &quot;Her Pilgrim Soul&quot; in my opinion is the very best episode of any Twilight Zone series in all its incarnations, and that&#039;s saying something.  I also think it may very well be one of the finest pieces of fiction ever aired on commercial television. I also recommend his other Hawaiian-based novel (other than &quot;Honolulu&quot;) called &quot;Moloka&#039;i.&quot;  I thoroughly recommend it; I couldn&#039;t put it down.

3) A few months ago, I pointed out an error that Shag had made in referring to Multiplex&#039;s alter ego as &quot;Dalton Black.&quot;  In the original series run, his name was &quot;Danton Black,&quot; not &quot;Dalton Black.&quot;  Shag graciously acknowledged the correction on one of the podcasts.  However, I should note that under the pen of Dan Jurgens, the alter ego of Multiplex is now officially &quot;Dalton Black.&quot;  It suggests to me that Mr. Jurgens may very well haved relied on this site and/or the podcast for some amount of research!

4) Put me down as another supporter of the concept of reviewing the 80s run of Firestorm.  As much as it&#039;s been fun to review the new issues as they come out, it&#039;s the 80s run that was such an integral part of my childhood.  I look forward to hearing the Shag and Rob take on this classic run.  I think going back to it, we&#039;ll all be amazed at how much story was once packed into a comic book, back when comic books considered themselves to be an actual form of literature rather than research-and-development storyboarding for the television and film industry.

5) Is Martin being currently bald supposed to suggest that he is now the DCU&#039;s Professor X?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Being Polish myself, I&#8217;m pretty sure the surname you butche&#8212; er, I mean, tried to pronounce is &#8220;Za-VEE-sha.&#8221;  </p>
<p>2) I&#8217;m so glad Rob got to meet Alan Brennert.  Not wanting to steal Rob&#8217;s thunder, but I too had the pleasure of Mr. Brennert&#8217;s company for lunch back when I lived in California.  I wrote to him and told him how the 1980s Twilight Zone episode &#8220;Her Pilgrim Soul&#8221; had inspired me to write my first musical for community theater, which in turn got me into music school as a music major.  He was quite tickled by that, and since I already lived in southern California, it was easy for us to hook up.  &#8220;Her Pilgrim Soul&#8221; in my opinion is the very best episode of any Twilight Zone series in all its incarnations, and that&#8217;s saying something.  I also think it may very well be one of the finest pieces of fiction ever aired on commercial television. I also recommend his other Hawaiian-based novel (other than &#8220;Honolulu&#8221;) called &#8220;Moloka&#8217;i.&#8221;  I thoroughly recommend it; I couldn&#8217;t put it down.</p>
<p>3) A few months ago, I pointed out an error that Shag had made in referring to Multiplex&#8217;s alter ego as &#8220;Dalton Black.&#8221;  In the original series run, his name was &#8220;Danton Black,&#8221; not &#8220;Dalton Black.&#8221;  Shag graciously acknowledged the correction on one of the podcasts.  However, I should note that under the pen of Dan Jurgens, the alter ego of Multiplex is now officially &#8220;Dalton Black.&#8221;  It suggests to me that Mr. Jurgens may very well haved relied on this site and/or the podcast for some amount of research!</p>
<p>4) Put me down as another supporter of the concept of reviewing the 80s run of Firestorm.  As much as it&#8217;s been fun to review the new issues as they come out, it&#8217;s the 80s run that was such an integral part of my childhood.  I look forward to hearing the Shag and Rob take on this classic run.  I think going back to it, we&#8217;ll all be amazed at how much story was once packed into a comic book, back when comic books considered themselves to be an actual form of literature rather than research-and-development storyboarding for the television and film industry.</p>
<p>5) Is Martin being currently bald supposed to suggest that he is now the DCU&#8217;s Professor X?</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Jaconetti</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke Jaconetti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember both Weird Worlds AND My Greatest Adventure, and the awesome Tanga, Garbageman, and Robotman stories they spawned.  Lobo wasn&#039;t bad either.  But the problem is that those two books existed primarily as a showcase for Tanga and Garbageman, both of which I doubt will ever be used except by their respective creators (Kevin Macguire and Aaron Lopresti), and were never &quot;really&quot; part of the New 52.

@Siskoid, Yeah, I guess Stormwatch fills that role, but I have never read an issue of it in any incarnation so I really couldn&#039;t tell you much about it.  Same goes for the Suicide Squad.  So I guess I really don&#039;t know what I am talking about on that front!  I still liked Aquaman #20 anyway.

As far as offbeat DC books, I also recommend The Phantom Stranger.  Rob will probably balk at it, but the book has been reading like a Vertigo title and is a compelling and full read month in and month out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember both Weird Worlds AND My Greatest Adventure, and the awesome Tanga, Garbageman, and Robotman stories they spawned.  Lobo wasn&#8217;t bad either.  But the problem is that those two books existed primarily as a showcase for Tanga and Garbageman, both of which I doubt will ever be used except by their respective creators (Kevin Macguire and Aaron Lopresti), and were never &#8220;really&#8221; part of the New 52.</p>
<p>@Siskoid, Yeah, I guess Stormwatch fills that role, but I have never read an issue of it in any incarnation so I really couldn&#8217;t tell you much about it.  Same goes for the Suicide Squad.  So I guess I really don&#8217;t know what I am talking about on that front!  I still liked Aquaman #20 anyway.</p>
<p>As far as offbeat DC books, I also recommend The Phantom Stranger.  Rob will probably balk at it, but the book has been reading like a Vertigo title and is a compelling and full read month in and month out.</p>
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		<title>By: Siskoid</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siskoid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe, but I&#039;ve had qualms in the past about getting a book for 8 pages of something I like, when I dislike or don&#039;t care about the remaining 16. These days, most people think with their wallets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, but I&#8217;ve had qualms in the past about getting a book for 8 pages of something I like, when I dislike or don&#8217;t care about the remaining 16. These days, most people think with their wallets.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Benning</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Benning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know DC Presents didn&#039;t do well and I think a lot of that was format. You had 4 to 5 issue arcs in some case which are doomed to fail if its a character with limited following. You make it an anthology book that could appeal to say Martian Manhunter fans, Firestorm Fans, Adam Strange Fans, etc and you have multiple comic demographics buying one book. A lot of stuff has been a big miss in the last 3 waves, I&#039;m not sure what they have to lose at this point trying something truly New compared to the other stuff their producing right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know DC Presents didn&#8217;t do well and I think a lot of that was format. You had 4 to 5 issue arcs in some case which are doomed to fail if its a character with limited following. You make it an anthology book that could appeal to say Martian Manhunter fans, Firestorm Fans, Adam Strange Fans, etc and you have multiple comic demographics buying one book. A lot of stuff has been a big miss in the last 3 waves, I&#8217;m not sure what they have to lose at this point trying something truly New compared to the other stuff their producing right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the My Greatest Adventure and Weird Worlds recent anthologies ... but more because nobody but me remembers the awesome Tanga comic it spawned.

Part of the problem with those books (and the DCU Presents) is that they were built on the 6 issue story model. That&#039;s not a showcase, it&#039;s a commitment. They should make it in the model of 1st Issue Special, throwing new stuff and old characters in one-and-done stories. See if anything sticks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the My Greatest Adventure and Weird Worlds recent anthologies &#8230; but more because nobody but me remembers the awesome Tanga comic it spawned.</p>
<p>Part of the problem with those books (and the DCU Presents) is that they were built on the 6 issue story model. That&#8217;s not a showcase, it&#8217;s a commitment. They should make it in the model of 1st Issue Special, throwing new stuff and old characters in one-and-done stories. See if anything sticks.</p>
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		<title>By: Siskoid</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129478</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siskoid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m all for a Showcase anthology book, but I don&#039;t know if DC would see it as a good investment. After all, they tried it most recently with Our Greatest Adventure (and whatever the preceding mini was called) and nobody but me remembers the awesome New52 Robotman it spawned.

On a monthly basis, DC Universe Presents was a Showcase type book (just not an anthology) and that was recently cancelled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for a Showcase anthology book, but I don&#8217;t know if DC would see it as a good investment. After all, they tried it most recently with Our Greatest Adventure (and whatever the preceding mini was called) and nobody but me remembers the awesome New52 Robotman it spawned.</p>
<p>On a monthly basis, DC Universe Presents was a Showcase type book (just not an anthology) and that was recently cancelled.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Benning</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Benning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahh sorry I misunderstanding what team you were talking about in your post. I agree I&#039;m a little sick of The Others at this point. It would be nice to have Aquaman back in his own book. I really wish DC would have an anthology style book in the vain of Action Comics Weekly (but not weekly, stick to monthly) that had multiple short stories in it. I think that&#039;d be a great way to test the waters for new character ongoings as well as keep heroes whose books were cancelled still prominent in the DCU. This sort of book would be a good choice for a story on the Others as well as some solo tales for characters like Firestorm, Booster Gold, Deadman and/or Martian Manhunter who don&#039;t have their own ongoings.They could call it Showcase and it&#039;d be a very welcomed book I would think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh sorry I misunderstanding what team you were talking about in your post. I agree I&#8217;m a little sick of The Others at this point. It would be nice to have Aquaman back in his own book. I really wish DC would have an anthology style book in the vain of Action Comics Weekly (but not weekly, stick to monthly) that had multiple short stories in it. I think that&#8217;d be a great way to test the waters for new character ongoings as well as keep heroes whose books were cancelled still prominent in the DCU. This sort of book would be a good choice for a story on the Others as well as some solo tales for characters like Firestorm, Booster Gold, Deadman and/or Martian Manhunter who don&#8217;t have their own ongoings.They could call it Showcase and it&#8217;d be a very welcomed book I would think.</p>
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		<title>By: Siskoid</title>
		<link>http://firestormfan.com/2013/06/17/fire-water-55/comment-page-1/#comment-129471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siskoid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He actually said that about the Others.

I completely agree that the Green Team is a fun, offbeat book with lots of potential. Can&#039;t be bothered with the Others though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He actually said that about the Others.</p>
<p>I completely agree that the Green Team is a fun, offbeat book with lots of potential. Can&#8217;t be bothered with the Others though.</p>
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