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By: Luke Jaconetti

Luke Jaconetti — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:16:36 +0000

PG-13 is the new PG, though. Warners would have lobbied for the higher rating if it had come down as PG. PG is a kiss of death for live action movies in today’s market — PG-13 is the target demographic for these tentpole films.

By: cﾘnical

cﾘnical — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 05:06:10 +0000

The Man of Steel trailer was excellent. If only WB could get their heads out of their asses when it comes to every character not named Superman or Batman…

Also, there’s this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut9BzjcFYPg

By: Count Drunkula

Count Drunkula — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 23:21:45 +0000

I agree THE SIMPSONS became irrelevant when SOUTH PARK was premiered, but that doesn’t make cribbing a good line any less worthwhile. Much of the Simpsons’ glory days remains classic, and if a joke works, it works (and Rob’s would have worked if Shag had been awake).

@ Siskoid – the White Dwarf guy you’re referring to, I believe, is Dwarfstar from the Choi-era ALL-NEW ATOM series.

@ Frank – The shrinking hero fighting spies and terrorists is what I would focus a solo ANT-MAN movie on, along with grieving widower Hank Pym unexpectedly finding love again in Janet Van Dyne and agreeing to turn her into the Wasp so they could avenge the murder of her father. As for the Atom, I love Chronos and Dr. Light and the mad scientists, but if there was only one Atom movie I think you have to go the SWORD OF THE ATOM route.

@ Keith – I also liked the new MAN OF STEEL trailer. I still have a number of concerns, though, including the PG-13 rating. As Greg Rucka tweeted: “If you can’t bring kids to a Superman movie, you’re doing something wrong.”

By: cﾘnical

cﾘnical — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 04:38:03 +0000

Am I really the only one who loves crossovers?

I agree with Frank. The Simpsons hasn’t been funny or relevant in decades. It’s a shame the show is still running.

If we’re solely using the ludicrous Filmation series as the end-all, be-all of He-Man lore, then yeah. Hordak sucks. But if you consider the comics, mini-comics, or the infinitely superior animated series from the 2000s, Hordak is a legit bad ass and exclusive He-Man villain.

By: rob!

rob! — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 02:22:05 +0000

Dr. Who (cares)

Kinda mean, sure, but genius enough it deserves to be restated.

By: Keith Samra

Keith Samra — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 21:34:43 +0000

Let me be the first to say the Man Of Steel trailer (#3) kicked some major Candy Ass! Looks like Avengers level action, taken out by Superman alone!

Yes I know its not Firestorm or Aquaman related, but since we’re discussing Doom Patrol, Dr Who (cares) etc… I thought I’d plug Superman!

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 04:37:02 +0000

The early Atom stories were about Ray solving mysteries and dealing with situations via the two-edged sword of shrinking powers. Beyond introducing Palmer & company in an origin story, I’d stick with him fighting hoods/spies/terrorists in his first (and probably only) movie. I’d also use the Atom to introduce DC espionage characters, the way the Marvel movies threaded S.H.I.E.L.D. throughout their narrative, but from a more realistic, morally compromised angle. If that actually worked, it would open up guys like the Suicide Squad and Kobra for the sequel. Maybe save the time-traveling Chronos for the trilogy endcap. Most importantly, leave the Floronic Man to Swamp Thing and the Bug-Eyed Bandit alone entirely.

By: Luke Jaconetti

Luke Jaconetti — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:45:17 +0000

That first part came out wrong. I meant something along the lines of “If you were amused by it, then that alone is a reason to stop.”

By: Luke Jaconetti

Luke Jaconetti — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:38:10 +0000

@Siskoid, I’m glad you were amused. That was not my intention, to make you laugh. That alone is a reason not to continue.

Anyway, the only Atom villain worth a damn is Jean Loring, and we all know it. Is there money to be made in a movie wherein our hero fights against his viscious, emasculating, man-hating, psychopathic girlfriend? Personally, I’d pay to see it, but we’d all know how it would end.

By: Siskoid

Siskoid — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:13:54 +0000

Luke, the pro-Outsiders rants are hilarious. Don’t stop.

Even the more notable Atom villains are very Atom-ey. Chronos, Doctor Light, those guys. I guess tiny heroes are all about villainous scientists.

How about that White Dwarf guy?

But really, is there a rule that superhero movies must feature a SUPERvillain?